Posts by Nathan Natas

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Fight with wife over watching Avatar escalates to near-separation--true story

by sd-7 in

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it's true because it happened to me last night.

i knew it was trouble when she started looking at my kindle.

once she got to the short stories i wrote 3 years ago, autobiographical, some of it involving her, i knew i wouldn't be going to bed before 1:00 (it was 11:40 p.m. by then).

Nathan Natas

Do you want a medal for being a human sacrifice?

Here:

Probably you really NEED to see a therapist who can prescribe an antidepressant for you. (A psychiatrist.)

You need to discuss with him why you are drawn like a moth to doomed relationships with needy women. (I re-read your first post from 10 months ago.)

Personally, I'd rather be alone than have what you've got now. You've never really been on your own - you went from Momma's house to THIS mockery of a relationship.

You need to split. Exit, stage left!

She and her kid will qualify for welfare as soon as you leave; they aren't your problem. Let her experience the loving provisions of Jah.

Change your identity if you must, spend some time in a Zen monastery if you must, but find YOURSELF.

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Watchtower Golden Age article = "In Paradise we will fly like Superman...and a Comet will keep earths climate warm??? What?

by Witness 007 in

life in paradise...what will it be like?

so many questions.....let's see what "the faithful slave" has to say about it.. golden age aug 25 1926 p.751 "negative gravitation...you may have wondered how accidents will be avioded in christs kingdom, since we are told nothing will hurt or destroy.

scientists tell us there is enough atomic energy in one finger-nail to propell a battleship.

Nathan Natas

More "apostate lies"!

Folks, this stuff is for REAL!

We're smart, but even >>we<< couldn't make up sh!t like this!

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Wierdest Yearbook experience EVER 1967 A "talking snake" silenced by an African Witness!!!

by Witness 007 in

yearbook 1967 p.105 "{chad -africa}.....a large crowd was follwing a man who had a talking serpent.

the serpent gave greetings and spoke in foriegn tongues...a brother was passing by and attracted by the commotion, he went to the house...as soon as he entered the room the serpent stopped talking.

the man cried out: "a magican has entered the room"...the brother said: "is that a serpent or a demon that is talking to you?...i know that since god created the animals not one sepent has spoken, with the exception of the one in the begining in the garden of eden...seeing that the serpent remained silent the man left the building...later he was anxious to get some literature....".

Nathan Natas

I recall that YEARBOOK experience!

I wonder why the WT Library CD only goes back to the 1970 yearbook?

I also recall an experience - maybe from Cuba or Haiti - with an exploding chicken.

Great stuff, and all ab-so-frikkin'-lutely TRUE™!

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Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

by lepermessiah in

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my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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Nathan Natas

Time is nature's way of keeping everything from not happening all at once.

If you read the WATCHTOWER literature from that era, you will discover that 1914 was supposed to be the END, not "the beginning."

Cult leaders are always able to spin reality to suit their needs. Most people are afraid to look into the face of reality, so they let others look at it for them and tell them what they see. Such people are fools.

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There's something I don't quite get

by dgp in

let's say you're an active witness (well, you guys were, or are active witnesses) and you look around you.

practically every appliance, invention, whatever, most of the food, all the new discoveries, virtually everything was made by worldlies.

it's been that way for thousands of years.

Nathan Natas

A loyal Dub would explain that the exclusive property of this world is EVIL, and it is from EVIL in all its forms that we must separate ourselves.

Jehovah's squeaky-clean organization may protect pedophiles and alcoholics, wife-beaters, liars, hypocrites and people leading double lives, but you will not within the congregation the kind of pernicious, blatant EVIL that you will find, for example, in the Boy Scouts.

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Are we approaching the end of the 1,000 year reign or the beginning? THE TRAP!

by EndofMysteries in

just looking for opinions and why you think one way or another.

perhaps you've noticed that the bible doesn't end at the beginning of the 1,000 year reign and just have the few verses in rev showing what happens at the end, but it infact goes through the entire thousand year reign in many parts of it.

for example....in rev 20:7-10 it shows how gog of magog surrounds the camp of the holy ones, then fire comes down and destroys them.

Nathan Natas

Mad Sweeny explained, "As individuals we all shall die and our atoms will return to the cosmos from which they were assembled but as that is the natural fate of all things, I find it hard to look at that as a negative."

Hmmm... how can I express this?

Yes, I agree that death is natural and inevitable, but I don't feel it is desirable for anyone who is mentally competent and not in intractable pain.

I believe that at death our personalities and individuality and identity all melt away like our innards, leaving nothing that can experience the great things yet to come. It is in that sense that "we" are ultimately screwed. The cosmos doesn't even blink at our passing. Nor should it, probably.

In youth we think that we are the guest of honor at this party, but in time we learn that we are just part of the decorations.

I don't have a dread of death because I've been close to it - personally close to it - a couple of times. What I dread is how I will attain that final state - will I fall off a rooftop and be impaled on an iron picket fence? Have my flesh ripped by jaguars?

When I meet Charon's ferry, I want it to have hydrofoils and a turbocharged engines, with a luxury observation deck where I can relax in a Lane Comfort King recliner with a glass of Wild Turkey on the rocks in one hand and a rack of BBQ spareribs in the other so that I can make the journey across the river Styx as swiftly and comfortably as possible. Oh, and I'll need one of those lemon-scented moist towelettes before I get off on the other side.

In this way, death is like sex - the object being to get it over with as quickly as possible so that I can get some (eternal) sleep.

(I couldn't resist throwing in that last line. to all you ladies out there - I'M KIDDING! Get in line!)

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What do you get when you just read the Bible?

by Nathan Natas in

this is the youtube video that was mentioned during rick fearon's six screens teleconference on may 22, 2010.. listen to what an arizona circuit servant says is the result of "just reading the bible.".

isn't it ironic that this organization's motto is "read god's word the bible daily"?.

http://www.youtube.com/user/21crosscheck21#p/u/14/l1lqhjw7yu0.

Nathan Natas

Did anyone other than NotACaptive actually listen to the recording?

My intent wasn't to send everyone on an Easter Egg hunt.

Maybe I should have said, "Hey Everyone, listen to this!" Consider it done.

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Letter to the Society

by serenitynow! in

so my mom is die-hard jw despite disagreeing with some teachings from the gb.

we were talking today about the generation thing, and she told me the generation teaching was inconsequential.

i told her how as a child i thought it was huge that the end would come before the 1914 people died.

Nathan Natas

Actually I meant "dozens," or at least "a few."

Hyperbole is the name of the game, guys n' dolls! Get with it!

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Letter to the Society

by serenitynow! in

so my mom is die-hard jw despite disagreeing with some teachings from the gb.

we were talking today about the generation thing, and she told me the generation teaching was inconsequential.

i told her how as a child i thought it was huge that the end would come before the 1914 people died.

Nathan Natas

SerenityNow said, "She's 63. She's given her life to this org."

No, she's given A LARGE PART OF HER LIFE to the org, but unless she's already dead, not her ENTIRE LIFE.

The evidence collected from literally billions of case studies, shows that MOST Jehovah's Witnesses DO NOT wake up because of any "crisis of conscience" but because of what is perceived as an unwarranted slap-down from insensitive elders.

I would encourage your mother to write her letter of counsel to the brothers. They will enjoy having a woman teach them, and they will make sure she knows how very much they enjoy it.

Afterwards, you can offer her consolation (emotional support, not the magazine) and the buttery-smooth balm of unconditional love and acceptance. (Also good with popcorn or snails.)

THEN she will be ready to complete her journey.

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What do you get when you just read the Bible?

by Nathan Natas in

this is the youtube video that was mentioned during rick fearon's six screens teleconference on may 22, 2010.. listen to what an arizona circuit servant says is the result of "just reading the bible.".

isn't it ironic that this organization's motto is "read god's word the bible daily"?.

http://www.youtube.com/user/21crosscheck21#p/u/14/l1lqhjw7yu0.

Nathan Natas

This is the YOUTUBE video that was mentioned during Rick Fearon's SIX SCREENS Teleconference on May 22, 2010.

Listen to what an Arizona Circuit Servant says is the result of "just reading the Bible."

Isn't it IRONIC that this organization's motto is "Read God's Word the Bible Daily"?

http://www.youtube.com/user/21crosscheck21#p/u/14/L1LQhjW7yU0